a reasoned response
A large shout out to CIF poster NORTH. Good work.
There is a blog on the Grauniad's Comment is free website from Tariq Ali.
This might be one of the best responses I've read on CIF for a long time.
Pakistan has been a disaster waiting to happen right from the establishment of the state. BTW Freyaloki, the British never were that keen on setting up 'The Land of the Pure" (What a joke that name is) as it greatly complicated our exit from the old Indian empire. The UK would have been far happier to leave a unified Indian state. Pakistan happened because Jinnah and the Muslim League made it happen.
The trouble with Pakistan was/is that there were no other unifying factors other than Islam.Culturally and ethnically Pakistan is split in innumerable ways. Scindis v Punjabis. Baluchis v central government, Pashtun speakers and other 'tribal' peoples v the more settled peoples of the Indus valley, Sunni v Shiah etc. etc.. In addition the state has been cursed with an upper class of almost unparalleled greed and irresponsibility. They pay hardly any tax and are amongst the most corrupt people on this planet.
As a result of all this the state has been run by military governments for about half its history. The present civilian government probably won't last long. The present upsurge in violent Islamism was encouraged by the late, unlamented Zia Al Huq, in association with various feudal landowners, as a way of opposing the equally corrupt but popular Zufilkar Ali Bhutto ,before Al Huq killed him. The ISI are up to their armpits in Islamic extremism and were almost certainly mixed up in the recent Mumbai bombings.The Taliban were never created by the West (the mujahedeen were). The Taliban were always the Pakistani military's bitch, created to extend Pakistani influence as a part of Pakistan's endless and pointless rivalry with India. Pointless, because India is now so far ahead of Pakistan in terms of military power and development potential.
Now the bitch is biting its creator. The cultural and linguistic similarities between Afghanistan and the Tribal Areas of Pakistan means that the jihadist ideology of the Taliban has crossed back into Pakistan. In addition the fact that several generations of young Pakistanis have been educated in Saudi financed madrassahs means there was a large and receptive audience for the Taliban message. Add on the final point, that large sections of the Pakistani military's officer corps was heavily Islamicised from the 70s onward and many officers and senior NCO's actually sympathise with the Islamist ideology and it really isn't surprising that Pakistan is gradually dissolving into chaos. Under such circumstances it is also not surprising that the US is starting to take matters into its own hands to combat Pakistan based groups which are crossing over into Afghanistan to kill US troops.
Stop press. The latest Pakistani excuses are 1) Its all the fault of the Americans because of their drones and even more ludicrously a Pakistani minister has accused India of being behind this latest attack.
In the long run I expect India will 'take care' of Pakistan. We should be getting much closer to India.
Good post.
There is a blog on the Grauniad's Comment is free website from Tariq Ali.
This might be one of the best responses I've read on CIF for a long time.
Pakistan has been a disaster waiting to happen right from the establishment of the state. BTW Freyaloki, the British never were that keen on setting up 'The Land of the Pure" (What a joke that name is) as it greatly complicated our exit from the old Indian empire. The UK would have been far happier to leave a unified Indian state. Pakistan happened because Jinnah and the Muslim League made it happen.
The trouble with Pakistan was/is that there were no other unifying factors other than Islam.Culturally and ethnically Pakistan is split in innumerable ways. Scindis v Punjabis. Baluchis v central government, Pashtun speakers and other 'tribal' peoples v the more settled peoples of the Indus valley, Sunni v Shiah etc. etc.. In addition the state has been cursed with an upper class of almost unparalleled greed and irresponsibility. They pay hardly any tax and are amongst the most corrupt people on this planet.
As a result of all this the state has been run by military governments for about half its history. The present civilian government probably won't last long. The present upsurge in violent Islamism was encouraged by the late, unlamented Zia Al Huq, in association with various feudal landowners, as a way of opposing the equally corrupt but popular Zufilkar Ali Bhutto ,before Al Huq killed him. The ISI are up to their armpits in Islamic extremism and were almost certainly mixed up in the recent Mumbai bombings.The Taliban were never created by the West (the mujahedeen were). The Taliban were always the Pakistani military's bitch, created to extend Pakistani influence as a part of Pakistan's endless and pointless rivalry with India. Pointless, because India is now so far ahead of Pakistan in terms of military power and development potential.
Now the bitch is biting its creator. The cultural and linguistic similarities between Afghanistan and the Tribal Areas of Pakistan means that the jihadist ideology of the Taliban has crossed back into Pakistan. In addition the fact that several generations of young Pakistanis have been educated in Saudi financed madrassahs means there was a large and receptive audience for the Taliban message. Add on the final point, that large sections of the Pakistani military's officer corps was heavily Islamicised from the 70s onward and many officers and senior NCO's actually sympathise with the Islamist ideology and it really isn't surprising that Pakistan is gradually dissolving into chaos. Under such circumstances it is also not surprising that the US is starting to take matters into its own hands to combat Pakistan based groups which are crossing over into Afghanistan to kill US troops.
Stop press. The latest Pakistani excuses are 1) Its all the fault of the Americans because of their drones and even more ludicrously a Pakistani minister has accused India of being behind this latest attack.
In the long run I expect India will 'take care' of Pakistan. We should be getting much closer to India.
Good post.
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The problem with taking care of Pakistan is that it's a failed, lawless state that has its own nuclear bomb.
Things could get very, very messy in that part of the world (and by extension in Britain too)
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